| Time |
Nick |
Message |
|---|
| 12:42 AM |
LazyJoe |
Hi! What is going on at the incubators composer project? I have seen that the sources have been removed from SVN with a message like "marriage called off". |
| 12:42 AM |
edyoon |
ian: Hi. |
| 12:43 AM |
edyoon |
ian: Are you there? |
| 12:44 AM |
Brian |
LazyJoe, I think it's being redone as plexus only |
| 12:47 AM |
LazyJoe |
Brian: Why? Any public discussion available? |
| 12:53 AM |
edyoon |
brett: Can i ask some personal question via e-mail? |
| 12:53 AM |
brett |
edyoon: depends on how personal :) |
| 12:53 AM |
brett |
but sure |
| 12:53 AM |
edyoon |
brett: Thanks. |
| 2:04 AM |
ian |
edyoon: yeah? |
| 2:08 AM |
edyoon |
ian: I sended a mail. When you get a moment, could you check that mail? |
| 2:10 AM |
ian |
edyoon: i'm probably not who you think i am |
| 2:11 AM |
edyoon |
ian: oh. sorry. :) |
| 7:45 AM |
i386 |
any of the mavenide guys here? |
| 7:45 AM |
i386 |
The netbeans stuff ROCKS |
| 7:45 AM |
mkleint |
i386: thanks. |
| 7:45 AM |
i386 |
mkleint: seriously - its not crap at all |
| 7:46 AM |
i386 |
Im an IDEA refugee now... :) |
| 7:46 AM |
mkleint |
:) |
| 7:46 AM |
mkleint |
still heaps of stuff to do.. |
| 7:46 AM |
i386 |
Id be glad to help out |
| 7:46 AM |
i386 |
You guys have an irc room ? |
| 7:47 AM |
mkleint |
i386: cool. |
| 7:47 AM |
mkleint |
i386: it's basically 2 guys, me and anuradha, we have a mailing list we don't use, just chant on gtalk.. |
| 7:48 AM |
i386 |
mkleint: cool |
| 7:48 AM |
mkleint |
i386: a lot of work has to be done on netbeans side unfortunately.. profiles and webservices come to mind.. |
| 7:48 AM |
i386 |
nods |
| 7:48 AM |
mkleint |
profiles==profiler |
| 7:48 AM |
i386 |
Unfortunately ? |
| 7:48 AM |
i386 |
Is the API a bit crap? |
| 7:48 AM |
mkleint |
some features in netbeans assume an ant-based project type.. |
| 7:49 AM |
mkleint |
profiler and webservices expose that in api.. |
| 7:49 AM |
i386 |
yay, I love assumptions |
| 7:49 AM |
mkleint |
http://mevenide.codehaus.org/m2-site/mevenide2-netbeans/building.html |
| 7:50 AM |
mkleint |
i've sort of tried to push them in my direction but have no real influence.. but given that the maven project seem to have a good portion of netbeans userbase, it migth change for 6.5 |
| 7:51 AM |
i386 |
Ill take a look over the weekend |
| 7:51 AM |
mkleint |
anyway, if you feel like contributing, file bugs, attach patches or post ideas to the dev list.. |
| 10:37 AM |
alkemist |
The tag of a repo in , that is to match a server id for authentication? |
| 10:42 AM |
maxb |
yes |
| 10:42 AM |
alkemist |
Ta. |
| 10:42 AM |
alkemist |
Docs aren't very clear on that. |
| 10:43 AM |
maxb_ |
Also potentially for matching an entry in a parent pom for overriding |
| 10:43 AM |
alkemist |
Thats a bit weird??? |
| 10:44 AM |
alkemist |
What if there are two repos that require authentication to read from, so they need to have the same id??? |
| 10:44 AM |
maxb_ |
Uh, yes, don't mind me, I have my ssh and my gui client open |
| 10:44 AM |
alkemist |
You can't specify different details in the parent because they key off id? |
| 10:45 AM |
alkemist |
I guess you could have duplicate entries in your settings.xml |
| 10:45 AM |
maxb_ |
The intent is one repo == one id |
| 10:46 AM |
alkemist |
See my point though? Typically you can have several repos at one server, which all share the same authentication. |
| 11:47 AM |
Sherriff |
alkemist: Use a build artifact manager? |
| 11:47 AM |
alkemist |
Archiva. |
| 11:47 AM |
Sherriff |
or nexus or artifactory |
| 11:49 AM |
alkemist |
Oh, you are suggesting I use one? |
| 11:53 AM |
alkemist |
Sherriff: if you are offering that as a solution, it doesn't change anything. You might have misread. |
| 2:44 PM |
_-_cgp_-_ |
Is there a way to develop with WTP, and have your changes automatically reflected in a running tomcat instance? |
| 2:45 PM |
_-_cgp_-_ |
Seems that my context.xml/web.xml don't get copied |
| 2:45 PM |
_-_cgp_-_ |
a running tomcat instance being within eclipse |
| 6:34 PM |
Dexter |
how can someone handle resources which add up to be huge in size and needed in many projects without committing them to SCM for each project? Is there a way that mimic the repository behavior? |
| 6:43 PM |
jesse_ |
Dexter: bundle them up and use the dependency or remote resources plugins to pull them into the needed projects |
| 6:46 PM |
Dexter |
jesse: the remote resources plugins looks good... |
| 9:39 PM |
eu |
hboutemy: ping |
| 9:40 PM |
hboutemy |
eu: hi Eugene |
| 9:41 PM |
eu |
hboutemy: I was wondering if artifact packaging is actually the same as type... |
| 9:41 PM |
eu |
hboutemy: btw, thnx for looking at mngeclipse-566 |
| 9:41 PM |
hboutemy |
AFAIK, yes. I don't know why the 2 terms are used alternatively |
| 9:44 PM |
maxb_ |
packaging implies a particular type? |
| 9:45 PM |
maxb_ |
or, at least, packaging is the only control you have over the type of a main artifact |
| 9:47 PM |
eu |
hboutemy: I guess we good then. thnx |
| 9:47 PM |
hboutemy |
found this: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Packaging+vs+Type+-+Derived+and+Attached+Artifacts |
| 9:48 PM |
hboutemy |
maxb_: the initial question from is eu is why I used packaging attribute in a class from nexus in a type field for a dependency section of a pom, then assumed type = packaging |
| 9:49 PM |
maxb_ |
hmm.... is the type of a maven-plugin "maven-plugin" or "jar" |
| 9:51 PM |
hboutemy |
just tested: jar |
| 9:51 PM |
eu |
hboutemy: so, maven-plugin won't work as a type? |
| 9:52 PM |
hboutemy |
like explained in the previous link, "packaging IS A SUBSET of " |
| 9:54 PM |
maxb_ |
Uhm, isn't packaging=maven-plugin type=jar a counter-example to that? |
| 9:55 PM |
maxb_ |
Since maven-plugin is present in the set of valid but not in the set of valid |
| 9:55 PM |
hboutemy |
yes, I was trying this assertion on that example too and had the same conclusion :) |
| 9:57 PM |
eu |
hboutemy: what "subset of type" means in this example? is maven-plugin is actually an illegal type? |
| 9:57 PM |
hboutemy |
I was only copying http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Packaging+vs+Type+-+Derived+and+Attached+Artifacts... |
| 9:58 PM |
maxb_ |
Is it correct to say that a packaging is-a LifecycleMapping ? |
| 9:59 PM |
maxb_ |
Is a type an ArtifactHandler ? |
| 10:00 PM |
maxb_ |
hmm, no, an ArtifactHandler contains a type as a property |
| 10:00 PM |
eu |
hboutemy: I am completely confused now :) |
| 10:00 PM |
hboutemy |
the reference is the url above, written by Brett in 2005 |
| 10:00 PM |
maxb_ |
However all the ones I can find, the ArtifactHandler role-hint equals its type property |
| 10:01 PM |
hboutemy |
contains following explanations: "Type -> packaging + classifier mapping" |
| 10:01 PM |
hboutemy |
"Plugins can specify implementations of type handlers (and many will be in the core). These will indicate the packaging and classifier that they belong to. The default implementation will use packaging = type, no classifier." |
| 10:02 PM |
maxb_ |
I think type -> ArtifactHandler -> {packaging, extension, classifier} |
| 10:02 PM |
hboutemy |
yes, that's it |
| 10:03 PM |
maxb_ |
Except that the classifier isn't always obeyed |
| 10:03 PM |
maxb_ |
For example, I can't find an ArtifactHandler declaring classifier=test-sources |
| 10:03 PM |
maxb_ |
(in the 2.0.9 uberjar components.xml, anyway) |
| 10:05 PM |
maxb_ |
So.... A project's defines its lifecycle bindings, and the plugins that therefore execute control what type of artifact is produced, and the type contains a {packaging,classifier,extension} |
| 10:05 PM |
maxb_ |
there's no 100% guarantee that the first and second packaging will be the same, but I really hope they would be |
| 10:06 PM |
maxb_ |
and the classifier will sometimes be overridden by plugin or user configuration of plugin |
| 10:06 PM |
maxb_ |
(Is what I think) |
| 10:06 PM |
hboutemy |
no better explanation here ;) |
| 10:09 PM |
hboutemy |
now, it's late in France. Bye |